Working together

How many revisions is normal?

A clear brief and consolidated, timecoded feedback reduce avoidable rounds. The agreement should also say what revisions include.

A thirteenth round on a single video happens to people. So does asking for the same two words to come out and finding them still there on the fifth pass, and so does a year of monthly videos with an editor who has not worked out how you like things.

None of that is unusual, which is why how many revisions do you include has become the standard question to put to a supplier. It is understandable and it is a poor question, because the answer tells you almost nothing about whether you will be on round nine in March.

The rule that settles it: every note goes on the frame it refers to, and all of them arrive together, once. That beats any number of included rounds.

The number is the wrong question

The number matters, but only with a definition of what a round covers.

A clear brief helps the first cut land closer. Also agree what counts as a round, how factual corrections are handled and what happens when the scope changes. Those details make the included number meaningful.

Capping the rounds runs the wrong way too. If the brief was thin, or the reference was never agreed, or the video's purpose was never stated in one sentence, the rounds that follow are the process discovering things that should have been settled at the start. Being cut off after three of those is the wrong party carrying the cost.

So ask what happens before the first cut instead. That is where the number is set.

What is causing round five?

Three things, and they compound.

A reaction such as it feels flat is useful, but needs context. Mark where it happens and what you expected to feel or understand. The editor can then propose the creative change.

Notes arriving in drips. Three notes on Tuesday, two more on Wednesday, one more after somebody else has watched it. Each of those is a full round with all of a round's overhead, and each new pass invites fresh opinions on parts everybody had already accepted.

Notes that cannot be located. A paragraph in an email describing something roughly two thirds of the way through, near the bit about delivery times. The editor watches it three times hunting for the moment, sometimes finds a different one and changes that instead, which is how the same note comes to be given twice.

Where should a note live?

On the frame it belongs to.

This is the single change that does more than any other, and it costs nothing. Most review platforms let anybody click on the video and type where they clicked. If yours does not, timecodes in an email do most of the same job: 02:14, cut this sentence.

The mechanism is plain. A note in prose has to be read, located, interpreted and applied. A note on the frame is already located, so the interpreting happens with the picture in front of the person doing it.

Does consolidating notes really change anything?

Yes, and the arithmetic is unglamorous.

Every round carries a fixed overhead that has nothing to do with the size of the notes. Opening the project, making the changes, rendering, uploading, writing the message, waiting for you to watch it. Five small rounds pay that five times over. One round with everything in it pays it once, and the notes get considered together, which is how somebody spots that two of them contradict each other before doing both.

So gather everything, including the notes from whoever always replies late, and send once. If they cannot look until Thursday, the round starts on Thursday. A round that starts without them is a round that gets repeated.

How do you write a note that lands?

Say what you want. Three pairs, all common:

  • The intro is boring. Better: cut from the first line straight to the demonstration at 00:14 and lose the wide shot before it.
  • The music is annoying. Better: bring the music under the speech from 01:20 to 02:40, then back up for the ending.
  • This bit does not work. Better: the step at 03:05 goes past too fast, hold on the hands two seconds longer and put the temperature on screen.

Nominate someone to consolidate the partner’s decisions and distinguish requirements from preferences. The editor should flag conflicts or uncertainty before acting rather than choose silently between incompatible notes.

Good version control

Cuts numbered and dated, superseded versions archived rather than deleted, and every addressed note ticked off so nothing has to be asked twice.

Keep numbered versions and a record of which notes were addressed. Retain superseded cuts within the agreed storage policy so a change can be compared or reversed when needed.

In this studio the notes land on the frame and import straight into the timeline rather than being retyped by hand, each addressed note is ticked, superseded cuts are archived rather than deleted, and two internal review rounds happen before a partner sees anything. That last one is where the round count is really decided. The version a partner watches first is already the third.

Before the next video, agree its purpose, audience, references and revision scope. Consolidate timecoded notes where practical, and leave a clear route for factual corrections or issues found later.

Sources and evidence

Our method. Notes go on the frame they refer to, all of them arrive together in one pass rather than in drips, and one person is nominated to send them. Cuts are numbered and dated, superseded versions are archived rather than deleted, and every addressed note is ticked off. Two internal review rounds happen before a partner sees a cut, which is where most of the round count is actually decided.

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